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a deadly shooting at a high school in the u.s. this time in michigan. three students shot to death. a 15-year-old in custody tonight. also a major development in the january 6th investigation. mark meadows, the chief of staff to the former president, cooperating with the house select committee, providing records and agreeing to sit for a deposition. and a bitter public feud turning the gop into a circus. the qanon congresswoman marjorie taylor greene calling fellow republican nancy mace -- and i quote here -- trash. that after mace condemned anti-muslim bigotry from gop congresswoman lauren boebert against ilhan omar. a deadly shooting at a michigan high school. three students killed. i want to turn to cnn's adrian br broad does. three teenagers are dead, many more injured and a 15-year-old sophomore in custody. a lot of new information from that sheriff in that press
conference a short while ago. give us the latest, please. >> reporter: don, lots of new information, including the names of the three deceased. i'd like to share them with our viewers tonight. 16-year-old male died today. his name was tate meyer, and he died in the patrol car while deputies were transporting him to the hospital. the other two victims were females, a 14-year-old, hannah saint julienne as well as a 17-year-old female, madison baldwin. in addition to the three deceased, eight others were injured including a teacher. and their injuries range from critical to we know the teacher was released this afternoon. she sustained a gunshot wound, but the sheriff told us a 14-year-old is in critical condition tonight fighting for her life, and she is on a ventilator. she sustained multiple gunshot wounds. now, this all unfolded earlier
in the day where -- the suspect is a 15-year-old male. the motive behind this still unclear. the sheriff told us moments ago surveillance video shows the suspect exiting a bathroom, and upon arrival, deputies were able to take him into custody within two minutes. when they confronted him, he was holding a nine millimeter pistol, and, don, it was loaded. it contained seven additional rounds of ammunition, and the sheriff says when those deputies confronted him, he believes they interrupted seven more sho shootings. that could have been seven additional shots. we learned tonight the gun the suspect used was purchased four days ago according to the sheriff, and it was purchased, according to the sheriff, by the boy's father. tonight that 15-year-old suspect is in the juvenile detention center, and we've learned he's
on what members of law enforcement call a suicide watch. they say he is in a special cell, and someone is checking in on him about every 15 minutes. a lot of heartache in this community tonight. three people died, but eight others were injured, and those injuries, don, are serious. i spoke with a grandmother earlier in the day. she said she got the alert that the school was on lockdown minutes after leaving a funeral. she lives about an hour north of here in saginaw, michigan. she said the first call she made was to her pastor to request prayer because she didn't know what was going on. she later found out her two grandchildren who were at the school were okay. her oldest grandson, who is a senior and also a friend of tate meyer, was able to escape. he ran to a nearby grocery store. folks here know that grocery store as meyer. his younger brother was still
inside of the school, barricaded in a classroom with his teacher and a few other students. he was hiding under a desk when he called his father to let his father know what happened. tonight that grandmother told me those prayers she requested from her pastor now turn to this community. at least 1,800 students attend this school, and in the interest of full transparency, that grandmother i've known since i was a child, and her pastor is my father. and they told me, we see this on the news all the time, adrienne, but we never knew it was show up in our community. don. >> yeah. the tragedy touched so many people. i think the sheriff, adrienne said, one of the 911 callers, sadly it was a relative of someone who died there. i'm sorry for your loss and that you're being touched by this personally. adrienne broaddus there at the press conference for us this
evening. we have new video inside one of the classrooms at oxford high school. >> it's safe to come out. >> we're not willing to take that risk right now. >> i can't hear you. >> we're not taking that risk right now. >> come to the door and look at my badge, bro. >> yeah, bro. >> he said bro. >> he said bro. red flag. >> the situation inside the school as it was happening. i want to turn to former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. andrew, thanks for joining. sorry under these circumstances. as you were watching this and three students are dead, eight others injured, some suffering life-threatening wounds, the gun was bought by the suspect's father just four days ago. i know this is very personal for you. you're the father of a high school senior. the details that we learned from the sheriff tonight about the alleged shooter, how much ammo
he had, and his accuracy, it is really -- all of this is really chilling. >> don, it's terrifying. it is terrifying. i mean to anyone who sends a student off to school at any level, any grade, anywhere in this country has to be thinking tonight that tomorrow it could be my school. it could be my kid. and it could. that's the reality of the situation we live in. we are in the middle of an epidemic of gun violence in this country, and it very often washes up on the youngest and most innocent victims we have, our own children. >> yeah. you know, the big question is why. the suspect is in custody, but he is a minor, not talking to officials, hasn't been charged as an adult, so they don't know -- well, they haven't released his name. they know who he is. how will police determine a motive here, andrew? >> well, don, you heard the sheriff's officers tell us today that they'd already executed a
search warrant at this young man's home. and so undoubtedly in that warrant, they're looking for any information that could shed light on that question. why did he do this? who else may have known that he was thinking about this? what might he have said to other people that would have shed any light on his plans or his thought process? to find that, they're going to look at his electronics devices. they've already indicated they've recovered one phone, and they're going to obviously exploit the contents of that phone. they'll be looking at any other computers or laptops or anything he had access to. they're going to look at his social media accounts very closely, look at his posts, anything he might have written or said. they're going to try to understand what his network of friends and, you know, classmates were. they'll interview all those people and their parents to try to get an understanding of not just what was in this young man's head and what might have motivated him but whether or not he had an influence on anyone else in his circle of friends.
and if, you know, hopefully there's no one else that's thinking about the same thing. >> i keep looking at my notes here while you're speaking because there was so much that came out of this press conference. but let me get you to look at this video. take a look at this video. it's of a teacher using a desk or table to block the classroom door as students are sheltered in place here. the sheriff says that the suspect was in custody within two minutes, but three students were still killed, and i mean the amount of security and training that they had there and, you know, even with all the training that these schools have, still this is horrific that this could happen. >> yeah, don. i mean, look, there's no good news from this story. but i guess one of the few positive indicators that we can look at are that the training has worked, right? you have a very progressive, forward-leaning jurisdiction like this where the sheriff talked extensively tonight about the training they've done with
their partners and with the education system and the schools. and then you see it on that video, right? the kids and the teachers are doing exactly what they're told to do. they are taking shelter in their classrooms. they're barricading those doors, turning out the lights, staying out of sight. those are all things they learned in that training. you also see that the police officers responded to this scene and immediately engaged with this subject in an effort to stop the bloodshed, and that worked, right? they were on him and disarmed him within two minutes. so those things are working, but the sad bottom line is it's never enough. you're always behind the shooter. you're always reacting after the disaster has struck, and therefore you always run the chance of losing some lives. >> very important question, i think, a quick answer, though, if you will because the breaking news. we lost a lot of time to interview you guys. the father bought a gun four
days ago. and somehow the son is using it. do we know where this goes from here? >> well, we don't. we're in the same place after -- that we are often in these tragedies. i mean, look, very quickly, the gun laws in this country are broken. you're hearing that from a lifetime gun owner and somebody who carried one for 21 years as a law enforcement officer. but until we start holding people responsible for the guns that they're buying, the firearms they're keeping in their homes, we're going to have more and more tragedies like this. >> thank you very much, andrew mccabe. i appreciate it. tonight a major development in the january 6th investigation. mark meadows, the chief of staff to the former president cooperating with the january 6th committee, providing records and agreeing to appear for questioning. the committee saying he has already turned over about 6,000 emails. meadows is under subpoena and cooperating with the head of criminal contempt charges, at least for now. so a lot to discuss.
cnn senior legal analyst elie honig is here. he's a former federal prosecutor. good evening to you. new developments in this case that we've been talking about as it comes to mark meadows. we are now learning from the committee chairman, bennie thompson, that mark meadows has provided about 6,000 emails through his lawyer. that seems significant. what do you think? that's a lot of emails. >> it is a lot, don, and it's certainly a good start. i'm more interested in the quality than the quantity. i mean there could be a lot of junk in those 6,000 emails. the real question, this is a deal, and is often the case with a deal, both sides get something. both sides had something to lose here. mark meadows avoids going down the steve bannon path, and the committee gets at least some information out of mark meadows. mark meadows is a central witness here, but my big question is going to be what happens when the committee starts asking tough questions? those 6,000 emails, we have a pretty sure bet none of them are with donald trump. he didn't email. so what happens when the committee says to mark meadows, what did trump do when that
crowd stormed the capitol, what was his reaction, did anyone tell him to call that crowd off? did he do it? why did he wait so long? if meadows is not willing and able to answer those questions, then it's not much of a deal. >> the committee has shown really a lot of interest in whether met adows used a person cell phone at the time of the insurrection and any text messages he might have. would that fall outside the scope of executive privilege, or could he end up taking the fifth? >> well, it doesn't matter what device you use. it's the communications. but i do think the fact that if he was using a personal cell phone, i think that raises the natural question of why. and if he delete the emails for the purpose of keeping them out of the hands of the investigators, whether it's congress or law enforcement, then that is potentially, if he did it and if that was his intention was to avoid investigation, that could get into the realm of obstruction of justice or obstruction of congress. >> then there's trump's effort to keep white house documents from his presidency secret based
on executive privilege. judges hearing the case today showed little sympathy for arguments from the trump team. here it is. watch this. >> you're going to have to come up with something more powerful that's going to outweigh the incumbent president's decision to waive, right? you're going to have to change the score on that scoreboard. >> you listened to arguments today. how did it go? >> very poorly for the trump lawyers. look, trump's going to lose this case. i'll just say it. i mean it was agonizing listening to the lawyers because the judges kept asking that question over and over. they kept saying, look, we acknowledge that a former president in some circumstances could have some interest in trying to exert executive privilege. however, if the current president disagrees, why and when could the former president possibly win out? and the lawyer just could not answer that question. so i don't see any way these judges rule in favor of trump having listened to that argument
today. of course it could end up in the supreme court next. >> learning some other things today. also learning tonight that the january 6th committee is planning to refer the former doj official jeffrey clark for criminal contempt tomorrow. they say he refused to answer questions at a recent deposition or produce any documents. does that help explain why they are taking clark on next? >> yeah. look, jeffrey clark should be referred for contempt, and contempt should be actually the least of jeffrey clark's worries. let's remember who this guy is. he was a high-ranking official at doj. he committed a fraud inside the justice department. he wrote a letter to the state of georgia saying, we, the doj, have identified potential widespread election fraud and you, state of georgia, you need to call a special session and apoint new electors. he should be held in contempt if he continues to defy the committee, and he may have bigger problems as well. >> elie, thank you so much, sir. appreciate it. with all of this going on,
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quoting her here -- all i can say about marjorie taylor greene is bless her effing heart. so that's where we are. that is the state of the gop tonight. let's discuss. dean obeidallah is here. liam donovan is a republican strategist. good to see both of you. this is nuts, but i want to hear how you feel. liam, you have representative greene calling fellow republican congresswoman nancy mace trash as representative boebert's bigotry on display, mccarthy refusing to say anything publicly. what's happening with your party? >> look, i think the details of this spat are going to be forgotten by the time we're pouring eggnog but it's indicative of the tension. the difference is leadership is no longer the last word.
there's an 800 pound gorilla who resides in florida who is watching this play out on cable tv. trying to keep the peace behind the scenes and really just saying, guys, get out of the way. we're so close to a majority, we can taste it. after virginia and new jersey, the goal here is just to not screw it up. not going so hot right now, but i think that informs the posture of leadership. >> greene says she talked with you. i think you said 800 pound gorilla, right? your words. she said she talked with the former president today and that they would support primarying mace. this is what mace said tonight. watch. >> it's like going and running and tattletaling to the principal because you have no ideas of your own, and you can't stand on your own two feet. she has no ideas or any type of policy or legislation that will ever move forward because she can't do it. she's got to run to somebody else who's bigger than her and
better than her for backup. and i just -- i refuse to operate that way. if she's going to, that's on her, not on me. it shows weakness. racism is weakness. racial bigotry, that's a weakness. >> she says racism, bigotry, weakness. listen, i heard what you said about the strategy. you have people in leadership saying get out of the way, but they're really not saying anything. why aren't we hearing more of that? is everyone republican who stands up to bigotry or stands up to trump going to get pushed out? >> i think this is indicative of politics as a team sport. i think, you know, the idea that you speak out against your side, that's being weaponized by greene in this case and to mace's point, sort of appealing to donald trump. >> don't you think that's indicative of the republican party right now? it's not -- look, democrats could barely come together to put an infrastructure package together because there were so many people who disagreed with each other.
so that's not sticking with a strategy. don't you think that's indicative of your party right now? you don't have democrats calling each other effers and, you know, trash and that kind of thing. >> but i think calling somebody a rino is the oldest trick in the book. it's something that republicans have gotten mileage out of, you know, all along. so the intraparty feuding is very familiar. in terms of making an example out of someone who clearly crosses lines, that's a little bit different. you know, i think the recent example of steve king was somebody the leadership had to deal with over a number of years. i think the difference was somebody like king wore out his welcome with his constituency. you don't fix these problems by top-down leadership-driven sort of punishment. i think in many ways, it needs to be dealt with by the voters, and unfortunately with marjorie
taylor greene, i think the thing she is serving up actually does fairly well with her intended audience. so the trick is here for mace to try to figure out whether there's some real estate in between this sort of -- you know, the crazies out there saying these untrue things and the more bombastic sort of anti-trump voices like adam kinzinger. does that earn you a primary by taking a principled stands on things like not calling people the jihad squad? >> dean, i want to bring you in here because i don't know what's happening with the republicans. i understand what he says about strategy, but this seems something that is really is just right now endemic to republicans. this is madness. leadership won't stand up. what do you make of what's going on? >> don, i mean over the years, how many times have we talked about anti-muslim bigotry from republicans? this began in 2012 with newt
gingrich and herman cain saying muslims want to impose sharia law. so to say donald trump is somehow an aberration is ridiculous. it's a party that has demonized muslims. today congresswoman omar played at a press conference a death threat she got. she got death threats earlier this year when congresswoman boebert was saying she's -- and supporters were chanting send her back. we saw a spike in hate crimes against muslims in 2016 because of trump saying things like islam hates us and i want to ban muslims from coming into this country. two-thirds of the republican base supported a total ban on muslims. we saw a huge spike in hate crimes. please don't tell me this is because of donald trump. this is because the gop is an anti-muslim, bigoted organization. it's a right nationalist movement. marjorie taylor greene represents this party far more than kevin mccarthy. i hope the democrats make this an issue in 2022, make it a
referendum on do you want a white nationalist organization -- it's not a political party. it's a fascist movement -- running the house of representatives, or don't you? i really hope democrats make that the 2022 referendum. >> i'm going to ask liam if he thinks the republican party is a white nationalist organization. i'm going to hold you guys over and i'll get your response on the other side. we'll be right back.
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okay. so we're back now with liam donovan and dean obeidallah. liam, dean said it was basically a white nationalist organization. dean, i think you said, what, like fascist? it also has sort of fascist -- >> yes. >> liam? >> look, i think every republican communicator in america hopes they embrace dean's messaging for november. look, i think we're several weeks away from democrats running a strategy that was noun, verb, donald trump. i don't think noun, verb, marjorie taylor greene or fascist or white nationalist is going to work any better. people can see and differentiate between a glenn youngkin and a donald trump or a glenn youngkin and a marjorie taylor greene. so i think as a campaign strategy, that's just, you know, not going to pass the eye test.
i certainly wouldn't associate with a party that i thought to be that kind of group. but, look, there are people who are obviously out there saying things that i wouldn't associate myself with. i think that's the fight nancy mace is trying to get to, and i think that's what leadership is trying to figure out right now is how do you deal with that under the circumstances. >> dean, i'll let you respond to that but then i have another question for you. go on, please. >> sure. we just had two weeks ago paul gosar put out his fantasy snuff video where he's murdering aoc, a woman of color. the man spoke at a white nationalist event and how many republicans in the house voted to condemn him? two. two. let's be blunt. the gop -- if we don't speak up about the extremists in our group, we are defined by them. i say the same to the gop. i can't -- you know, they ran against speaker pelosi for years. we're going to run against marjorie taylor greene, paul
gosar, lauren boebert because they are the face of this gop. it's not kevin mccarthy. it's then. that's where the energy, the passion is. let's be blunt. so good luck. there might be some exceptions, don't get me wrong. there are some good -- i'm not saying all republicans are racists, but all racists are republicans. >> you caught me off guard with that one. even liam had laugh. listen, i don't have time for the next question, but can we just play this video? i just want to show our viewers what it is and then we'll go to break. this is cnn k-file, we found another video of representative boebert suggesting representative ilhan omar was a terrorist. we'll show you one last night. here's another one. >> one of my staffers on his first day with me got into an elevator in the capitol, and in that elevator, we were joined by ilhan omar.
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omicron variant and now considering stricter testing for anyone traveling to the u.s. that as israel's health minister is saying there are indications people who have received the coronavirus vaccine booster are protected against the new variant. so joining me now, dr. william schaffner, the medical director at the national foundation for infectious diseases and professor of infectious diseases at vanderbilt university medical center. that is a long title, and it is well deserved. thank you, doctor, for joining us. i hope that the israeli folks are right. only has a handful of confirmed cases but now it seems promise from this statement from the country's health minister. >> well, it certainly is a little ray of sunshine in an otherwise overcast sky, right, don? but it is what we anticipated, that if you do get immunized and then boosted, you will have a lot of anti-body, and that much
antibody tends to give you some cross-protection to variants. and i hope the israeli minister is correct, and further research reinforces this because we certainly need to boost people's notions that getting a booster is very important as well as getting that first dose into a lot of our friends and neighbors who somehow haven't rolled up their sleeve yet. >> the fda advisers voting tonight to recommend emergency use authorization for merck's antiviral drug to treat covid-19. how big a deal is it? >> it is a kind of big deal because it was a split vote. they're a little cautious because the effectiveness was okay but not great, about 30% protection against devolving into more serious disease. and they still had some cautions about potential side effects. and their notion was that women who were pregnant or thinking
about becoming pregnant probably shouldn't take advantage of this. we don't have enough information yet. so not quite as big a deal as we thought maybe a week ago. >> you have to take the pill within five days of being infected. that makes testing key. are you concerned about that because the u.s. has had a lot of trouble getting testing up to speed? >> yeah, you bet, don. we haven't done nearly enough testing. the europeans have testing widely and freely available. we need much more of that. i think this administration is going to promote much more widespread testing, and it would be certainly useful as an additional intervention for us to get ahead of covid. >> you know, as well they should be, a lot of americans are worried about this new variant. if you've been vaccinated and boosted, is there anything else that you should be doing right now? i guess masking up as well. >> well, the folks who haven't
been vaccinated should be vaccinated and that includes children age 5 and over. when we go into public places, we should wear our masks, and if you have family gatherings and other gatherings that you can control, why not get a test before you have that christmas dinner or something like that, particularly if there are older people present who have underlying illnesses or an immunocompromised person. that will increase your sense of comfort and decrease your risk of getting infected. >> if it has been more than six months since your second shot and you haven't gotten the booster, should you still be considered fully vaccinated? >> well, with each additional month, your protection begins to wane somewhat. so if it's been longer than that, get your booster tomorrow. that's clear. one other thing.
remember, we're all concerned about omicron. it's in the news. but what's in every community today in the united states is delta, and our vaccines protect against delta. between now and christmas, delta is going to cause much more disease than omicron will. >> doctor, thank you so much. i got boosted. i'm still here. some people are probably not happy about that but -- >> i'm happy about it. >> it's all good. no side effects. i had a little bit of a sore arm, but it was all good. thank you, doctor. be well. former president barack obama encouraging young americans to get the covid vaccine, tweeting out photos today of himself and dr. anthony fauci visiting an elementary school in the nation's capital as some children were getting the vaccine. many with their parents on hand. obama telling the kids who were afraid of needles, he doesn't like getting shots either but does it to stay healthy, and saying the best way to protect
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wehle, a former federal prosecutor, and the author of how to read the constitution and why. also with us, former u.s. attorney harry litman. good evening to both of you, kim, i'm going to start with you. mississippi law would ban almost all abortions after 15 weeks and penalizes doctors who violate it. it has been struck down by two federal courts, so what about this court that makes it such a -- this case, i should say, that makes it such a threat to roe v. wade? >> because the court didn't have to take this case at all, don. it could have just said, listen, roe v. wade sets the red line at 24 weeks, around there, which is viability. this is clearly in violation of roe v. wade. there's nothing for the court to do here other than enforce the law. the fact that the court took the case, it took months to consider whether to take it, on these circumstances is troubling. in addition, i think it's notable that mississippi, when it first filed its petition for
certiorari, made clear or at least stated it was not interested in seeking to overrule roe v. wade. but that position changed once amy coney barrett was put on the united states supreme court. now it is asking for a complete reversal of roe and the secondary case, planned parenthood versus casey, which means really obliterating a constitutional right. normally, don, we have these rights. government has interests in infringing on the rights, and the court will balance how to manage that. what they're asking is to take the right away completely, and that is really troubling for reasons beyond just abortion frankly. >> harry, i want you to weigh in here because the supreme court, you know, it has resisted discussing this case 12 times. you say that that suggests that there are four votes in favor of the mississippi law. can you explain that and which justices you see as on the fence
here? >> sure. i actually think kim, who put her finger exactly on it, the number one fact that they took it in the first place means there are four votes. that's how many it takes to grant in favor of reinstating the mississippi law. as she says, it had been struck down. now we have this intriguing fact. they did it again and again and again, way more than i've ever been familiar with, and i clerk the there for a couple years. that suggests strongly to me there are other possible implications, but it really suggests that the four who were ready to strike it down and presumably still are were not certain about where a fifth might stand. and so the question is, are there four votes to reinstate the statute, which, as kim said, would be tantamount to getting ready of roe and casey, and one is on the fence? we'll have a better idea of that tomorrow. it would have to be either kavanaugh or barrett, and i
think barrett. one more quick point. i think, though it would in essence eviscerate roe v. wade and casey because they are inextricably opposed, the court may be very interested in pretending otherwise. that is, in upholding the statute and giving lip service to some continuing abortion rights even as they allow mississippi's to go into effect. that of course would invite bedlam because you'd have state after state pushing the envelope and this court having to call balls and strikes with no line like viability to use for any kind of coherent judgment. >> okay. listen, just for clarity and for the late folks because i want people at home to understand exactly what could happen. could the supreme court, harry, find abortion unconstitutional on a national level based on this case, or is it limited to the issue of whether a state can ban abortion?
>> it absolutely could. as kim says, they'd go right a frontal assault. roe v. wade, bankrupt 50 years, get rid of it, get rid of it. they certainly could do that. they also could uphold the statute, which would be like striking down roe but make it sound as if they're just weakening it rather than completely eliminating it. >> kim, roe has been the law of the land since 1973. can you take a step back and talk about what this would mean for the lives of women in many states that would move quickly to put in, you know, place similar bans, and could a state pass a law banning a woman from traveling to another state where abortion would remain legal? >> well, that slippery slope is my sort of compelling question here. >> think about texas. look at what's happening in texas, right? >> right. texas is literally -- there is no abortion rights. roe was kind of de facto overruled in texas.
that's what makes this so dangerous. there's approximately 26 states poised to ban abortion if roe gets overturned. and just to be clear, don, this is from the 14th amendment to the united states constitution. that's a post-civil war, anti-slavery amendment. it's about obliterating the brutalities of enslaving people where half of enslaved people that moved through interstate were separated from spouses, were separated from parents. of course they were brutalized physically. the idea that somehow only enumerated things in the constitution are protected is really scary. it says nothing about marriage. it says nothing about contraception. it says nothing about educating your children. this is a slippery slope that i think the court just should not wade into in this moment. >> kim, thank you. harry, thank you. i appreciate it. i'll see you guys soon. thank you for watching, everyone. our coverage continues.
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